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Post by KB on Mar 7, 2006 21:06:40 GMT
Hi, As promised, because the next version of Scrivener is taking some time to get ready (because it is a massive overhaul of both the interface and the way the binder and some of the views work), I have re-posted 0.2.0b with an extended expiry date. This version will not expire until May, by which time 0.3.0b should be ready. (Note that this is the first time I am posting the download link publicly - mainly because I now have so many beta-testers that my Yahoo account will not let me send out bulk e-mail to all - and all are welcome...) Here's the link: www.rumramruf.com/ScrivenerBeta/dlbeta/Scrivener_020b_ex.dmgNote that there are no updates or bug fixes in this version - it is (nearly) identical to the last release. I am hoping that 0.3.0b will leap to 1.0 in a fairly short time after release. There are still some major features that I have to copy over from 0.2.0b, so it won't be available for another month or so, though. Until then, here is an early glimpse of the new interface - it doesn't give away too much, but I hope you will agree that it looks much cleaner (and yes, I am aware that not everyone will like the move away from the pin stripes to the Mail 2.0 look, but hey, I love it...  )  All the best, and a big thanks to those still using Scrivener in its beta incarnation and who still check into the forums from time to time. Keith |
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Post by dunx on Mar 7, 2006 21:30:33 GMT
Thank you, Keith.
The new UI looks promising too!
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Post by jan on Mar 7, 2006 23:32:23 GMT
The new interface looks much cleaner than the current version, and I welcome the addition of custom categories and a Trash folder :) I have no problem at all with the Mail 2 look, because that's what Scrivener already looks like on my system (thanks to Iridium, an elegant interface hack that gives all programs the "unified toolbar" look and eliminates every trace of pinstripes and brushed metal from the system). However, I'm a bit worried about the absence of the word counter in the bottom bar :) What are the other two of these rather large buttons at the bottom right for, if you don't mind me asking? And will there be an option to view chapters as a single continuous file? These questions aside, the new interface is quite self-explanatory and proves that it was a good idea to streamline Scrivener. I look forward to the next release. |
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Post by KB on Mar 7, 2006 23:53:45 GMT
Jan - bear in mind that this is an early look - not everything is there yet. The word counter is just one of the interface elements that haven't been added yet. It will be there before release. The buttons on the right flick between notes, tags and tools specific to a document (eg. scaling, rotating for images). And yes, there is an option to see more than one document at a time, but it works differently... All will be revealed in due course. |
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Post by Jose on Mar 9, 2006 6:50:35 GMT
Thank you, Keith.
The 0.3.0b looks great. Much cleaner, and more flexible. Looking forward to use it.
Best wishes.
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Post by rayz on Mar 9, 2006 13:15:24 GMT
What are the tags for?
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Post by KB on Mar 9, 2006 17:44:44 GMT
Exactly the same as in the current version. |
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Post by rayz on Mar 9, 2006 19:38:06 GMT
Yeah, but I've got no idea what they're for in the current version either ..... :-)
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Post by KB on Mar 9, 2006 20:03:00 GMT
Oh. Well, you can use them as another way of labelling and finding documents. Suppose one of the themes in your book is water. Every time the theme enters your writing in some way, you could tag the document "water". Then you can do a search on "water" to see which documents fit that theme. Or you could tag a document with all the characters that appear in it. Then you can do a search on, for example, "Sarah+John+Mark" to see which documents all three characters appear in (even if their names are not mentioned within the text - especially useful if the document is just an image of one of the characters). Alternatively, you can just open the tags panel and select the tags you want to search on, and click "Search". You can organise all of your tags within the tags into groups, too - you might have groups for themes, characters, whatever you want. Essentially it's a much more flexible labelling system that doesn't limit each document to one label, and that allows you to organise your ideas and filter them in another way. Hope that explains.... |
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Post by rayz on Mar 10, 2006 14:24:45 GMT
Sounds good .... :-)
Have you thought of filtering the document views by tags?
Only showing documents that match tags?
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Post by KB on Mar 10, 2006 20:14:16 GMT
Um... Yes. That is what happens already. You can filter by tags. That is kind of the idea. Maybe I misunderstand your question.
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Post by futurosity on Mar 10, 2006 21:24:25 GMT
The new interface looks great, Keith. I can't wait to see the next version. I haven't been writing lately, but I'm finding other uses for Scrivener designing meetings I conduct as a consultant. Being able to rearrange the index cards makes it very easy design and revise an agenda. Thanks for your great work!
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rayz
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Post by rayz on Mar 11, 2006 7:50:02 GMT
Um... Yes. That is what happens already. You can filter by tags. That is kind of the idea. Maybe I misunderstand your question. No, I think I'm just being a bit dense ... :-) I've thought about using the tags as a basic version control system. Multiple copies of the same chapter, labelled with tags. So I can have one chapter labelld 'version 1', 'version 2' etc. Now what I'm having trouble findind, is a way to just filter the documents by tag, so I can just show/export 'version 2' of the book .... |
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Post by KB on Mar 11, 2006 10:51:00 GMT
If you click on "Tags" in thew view menu, you can just select which tags you want to filter by and then click on "Search". This will bring up a list of documents that have the selected tag (it searches only by tag). Alternatively, in the search box in the toolbar, use the drop-down menu to select "Search For... Tags" (by default it's set to "Search For... All". Then you can search by tags only. That said, why would you want to use tags for version control? This is exactly what the Snapshots feature is for. If you take a snapshot of a document, it is automatically saved by date. You can then select "View > Snapshots" when editing a document to see all the versions you have saved of that particular document (and you can restore an older version to the one you want to have visible in the Binder)... Cheers, Keith P.S. One day I will get around to writing some documentation for all of this. |
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Post by rayz on Mar 12, 2006 16:33:25 GMT
That said, why would you want to use tags for version control? This is exactly what the Snapshots feature is for. If you take a snapshot of a document, it is automatically saved by date. You can then select "View > Snapshots" when editing a document to see all the versions you have saved of that particular document (and you can restore an older version to the one you want to have visible in the Binder)... Good question. I have several revisions of each book. So I have 'final version - publisher 1', which could be made up of Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3 etc. I also have 'final version - publisher 2' which is made up of chapter 1, chapter 2 (different from chapter 2 in publisher 1), chapter 3 etc. By tagging each document with a version id, I can build a slightly different versions of the same book by just listing the chapters with the corresponding tags. |
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