New group/document behaviour

[janra]

This item is very minor and should be an easy one :-)

When a new group is created, could it be created as the last group under the currently hilighted group, not the first one? Generally speaking, I create them in order; when I don't I have no problem dragging them to the right place, but having to move a group to the right place every time is annoying. That they're created as a sub-group of whatever's hilighted makes sense to me.

Similarly, I noticed that new text documents are created after the currently hilighted selection instead of at the bottom of the list. (If the group is selected, the new document is at the top of the list.) For me, this is the same as above - I'd rather it were created at the bottom of the list within the group, and if I'm writing out of order I can move it to where it belongs.

Maybe these could be prefs?

-janra

[KB]

This is really standard behaviour across such apps... And the reason I think the current behaviour is better is this: imagine the folder you have highlighted contains a lot of items. If you add a new group/text document and it is added as the last item, then it may be created outside of the visible area, which could potentially be confusing. I do, however, appreciate that this can be a minor annoyance if you are creating lots of groups in one go, and wanting to create them in order without reselecting.

Also, with text documents, I think it is definitely better to create them beneath the currently selected document. This actually saves dragging, as you can just select where you want it to be created before adding it.

So: I'll think about it.

[janra]

clearly I haven't used apps like this before :-)

1) I would imagine that if the list went down off the screen, adding a new item at the bottom would cause the screen to scroll so you could see the new item - groups and documents are both selected after creation, so having the screen scroll down to show them seems like the right thing to do. You want to keep whatever's in focus visible...

It's also not only when I'm creating a lot of groups in one go, as I generally don't do that. I just create them in order, and every single time I create a group I have to drag it to where it belongs. With the group created at the top, it seems to me that only people who work backwards wouldn't have to immediately re-order every group created. I'm sure there are some people like that out there, but I imagine they're a pretty small minority :-)

2) good point, it's just a different behaviour than groups - I know groups and documents are different concepts entirely, but I like consistent behaviour for all items shown in the same display where the actions that can be performed on them are the same. You can drag them around the same way, rename them the same way, start their creation almost the same way (just an extra modifier key to indicate which one you want), and so on.

-janra